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This is the John Hallett podcast with John Hallett. Because the way we’re living, we need to change it. Make it change today. And all learn from failure. Maybe they just wanted it a little bit more than you. That’s probably the fact. And now your host, John Hallett.
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the John Hallett podcast. We are talking a little bit today about a good book, the anxious generation. We’re also going to be talking about our new ALP program or a new Alp class versus private, uh, semi private classes. So stay tuned to the end for that.
But, um, good news on the, um, TikTok video. And the activist there, I got him to take down that video. So we haven’t had a call here. Today’s Thursday that we’re recording this, the 27th. Um, we haven’t had a call all week, so really, um, glad that it seems like we’re moving on from that, but it forces me.
It doesn’t force me. Um, it makes me think of how and what in the martial arts industry that we can do something. Like, what do you do? I mean, I remember way back when, when, um, I started it, people were, you know, worried about people training gang bangers and are they getting this training.
Um, so it just makes me think, you know, in the industry, what are we doing? Um, are we banning somebody? You know? But, hey, maybe I want to change my life. Really, um, tough things to ponder there. Um, but in my book, um, it’s tough, uh, it’s tough, uh, to be associated, um, with somebody that’s made racist comments.
That’s, uh, a really tough thing. But we’d like to raise more awareness. And I think, you know, people have to be smart these days as stuff stays out on the Internet forever and ever, and it doesn’t go away. So we’ll bring in Josh here. How you doing, Josh? Um, good.
What do you think on that? The industry, you know, or what do you do when somebody, you know, hey, well, I’m, uh. I was in jail. I got out. I’m reformed.
I always like to think that people can be redeemed and everybody deserves for forgiveness. My tenants that I like to stick to.
Right, yeah.
Um, so you want to forgive as many people as possible. You. You don’t want to knowingly train somebody who wishes to do harm. But that’s really hard to figure out.
It’s really hard to figure out.
Anybody can just walk in the door, right? And they’re like, I want to learn. And they come across as a really normal person, and then they could be hiding this double life behind them. You don’t know.
Right. So hard.
And you’re not going to run a.
Background check every single person, and even stuff will come up regardless. Yeah, it’s kind of like some of the, um. Is it sexual predator? What’s the exact name, but, you know, you’re urinated in public, you know. Yeah. And now you’ve got that, like, that person needs a whole different classification like that, you know, then somebody that’s a real perv, um, kind of thing, which you don’t see as many because they’re all, like, keyboard warriors now and doing weird things on the Internet versus, like, wearing their trench coat and exposing themselves.
Back when it’s so hard to navigate because somebody does something dumb in a particular gym, suddenly that gym has to deal with the fallout, which experience noted. Right?
Yeah. And it’s like, it’s a tough, you know, it’s a tough scenario. I always want to be forgiving, you know, like, oh, okay. You know, you’re trying to change your life and it makes you think, um, but you can’t figure out everybody in your gym. Besides, you know, one of the things I thought, um, you know, do you do a fundraiser and find a good cause, um, to give it to our good cause that, you know, fighting racism?
Sure. You know, do you do a, um. And this is what, you know, do we have time to do it? It’d be nice of just going, you know, hey, end racism, you know, and do like a punch out or, you know, some sort of workout, um, that you did for martial artists.
And, you know, part of it was denouncing racism and saying, you know, racism ends with me, and I’m gonna hit this bag for, you know, 1000 punches to help end racism. And, you know, take the pledge was kind of my. Yeah, my thought. Because, you know, if you’re running a double life, um, and I’ve got you on the Internet, you know, start doing this fundraiser pledge of going and racism, all your KKK buddies would be like.
Uh, uh, hey, hey, I know you, and that’s not, hey, that’s what you’re doing.
But they. Then again, they might applaud and be like, good job, dude. You’re undercover. You know, who knows? But, you know, I’m just glad I’m not answering phone calls every single day.
Yeah. Uh, when you were getting like a hundred plus a day, it was like.
Yeah, uh, this is crazy. That’s result.
I mean, it’s not resolved.
So the anxious generation, Jonathan Haight, uh, he wrote the book, um, the coddling of the american mind. That was a really good book. Did you read that one?
No.
I have a reading list, Josh, from part of the podcast, and you’re not keeping up.
Wait, you gave me a reading list?
Yeah, I talk about books all the time. I love books. Um, and audible. I like that better. Driving, um, and doing whatever. Being in the cold plunge, being in the sauna, listening to that, um, is great. I think his book, he’s got a lot of great points in this book.
And he’s on Andrew Huberman. So if you want to do like, you know, the cliff notes, do the Andrew Huberman. He’s also on Joe Rogan, but the effects on her kids, and it’s these, like, I’m gonna be abducted. I was telling, um, one of the classes, um, kids, or maybe, oh, maybe I was telling the adult, I was telling a fitness class, like, hey, tell your friends.
Like, this has to be, you know, a movement that parents are making a change. And way back when, you know, he sees there’s a 2010.
Mhm.
Is a huge one. You know, we started, we didn’t know. I was telling the kids, like, hey, parents make mistakes, you know, is it like a tv and, oh, you can do games on it and you can, you know, learn. And there’s learning apps, and there’s great, like everything else, there’s the pros and cons, and there’s just a lot of negative with these kids having a.
You know, a smartphone or their own tablet that they can just access things and be on social media. And I’ll go through his, you know, four points of what we need to do to make a change. But, you know, I’m seeing kids, and that mom always sets up the play date, and they’re getting older and older, and part of me, you know, okay, we need to facilitate some things.
And maybe your friend from school isn’t in the neighborhood, but these kids aren’t out in the neighborhoods. They’re not having free play. I’ve, like, run a little experiment the last two days in kids classes and going, all right, you guys, uh, run the warm up, or you guys run the game, like, come out, do something, and they’ll kind of default a little bit to something I’ll do.
But I told them to warrant, like, all right, somebody you guys are running. It’s. It’s a joint warm up. And, like, none of them talked. And, like, one kid went and started hitting a heavy bag, and then they all just started hitting me. Heavy bag. And they didn’t even communicate.
And I was like, hey, I thought this was a group effort. It looks like a whole bunch of individuals just hitting a heavy bag, following the herd. And, uh, I did it with my little, little ones and went, okay, you guys have to run and explain to the new kid pizza delivery game.
And they just started playing, and they were just running, like, and seeing what the kids go and go, like, hey, it’s all up to you guys. Like, who’s out? Like, free play. And I don’t think they have enough of that.
Probably not, because you and I are most likely from generations where our parents had no problem kicking us out of the house and saying, come back when the sun goes down. You know, my mom always say, get out of the house. Go play with people. You go up and down the street, you find somebody to play with, and you would go and play.
Yeah, right? I haven’t seen that in a long time. Because we started seeing, like, the rise of the helicopter parents, right. Constantly hovering over their kids, and they’ve been. Those people were told that, you got to watch your kids, so don’t get kidnapped. You got to watch your kids.
I don’t do drugs. You got to watch your kids. You got to watch your kids. Everything was this sort of a crisis, uh, that they were introduced to, and then those kids never got to go outside and play like that anymore. And then technology ends up pushing, uh, them further inside.
Right.
There’s no reason to leave. Yeah. Uh, there’s this inherent fear about sending your kids out these days. And then the kids get really anxious, as far as I understand it, about their lifestyle and what’s going on. Because one of the stats I heard is that not only does it stick around from kids, there’s now adults going with their parents to job interviews because their parents had hovered so long with them that they’re taking them as backup on job interviews.
Are you kidding me?
5%. And that was, uh, uh, one of the radio shows I listened to in the morning. And Fox, uh, ended up covering it the other night, too. Is that there are people that have to have a support person with them.
Yeah. Uh, it’s over parenting. There’s so much, you know, I said, you know, I was saying to my wife, like, will you let them figure it out? This play date? Play date?
Yeah. I never, yeah.
I’m like, go out and is it still different? I mean, I think people won’t, they won’t. Can’t go in the neighborhood or you get in trouble. There’s a kid walking down the street, and it’s just ridiculous. Like, the amount your kid’s gonna get hit by lightning, I think, before they’re gonna get abducted.
And, uh, the ones that you really need to worry about or a family member or an ex spouse, those are the big ones on abduction.
Yeah.
And people. I mean, I tell a story where I got, uh, permission, um, from my step boy’s dad. Like, hey, they’re misbehaving in the car. Can I make him walk? Oh, yeah, yeah, make them walk.
Cool.
The meltdown, the time that I made him walk. Like, I didn’t even know if it was a mile. I’m m gonna get kidnapped. I was like, nobody wants a screaming kid. Nobody wants. Nobody wants you. You’re screaming. That was a story I told the, uh, fitness class I think your wife was in the other day.
And I’m like, nobody wants you. I’m gonna get lost. I’m like, you’re in the neighborhood, right? Settle down. You’re freaking out. You’re misbehaving. You can walk home. You don’t need to be in the car. Yeah, they never did after that, really.
I mean, uh, I was talking to someone about new recruits that they work with, and they have to find addresses, but they rely entirely on their phone to do it.
Yeah.
Because these kids are so anxious because they’re giving crutches for everything. They get anxious about time because they have to schedule the playdate. Right. Everything has to fit in their schedule now. And we really didn’t have that too much before. You know, electronic kids are over scheduled.
Now they’re over scheduled. I mean, the parents like, oh, well, he’s got this, this, this. I’m like, oh, my God. How’s your kid gonna do krav maga in that schedule and have any time to be a kid? I mean, there’s some real bad. And this. The stuff goes for adults, as well.
Yeah. And on the navigation side, I used to ride my bike everywhere. I knew where I was at. I could get to the store and back without gps. We did it all the time. Right. You knew your. Your neighborhood, you knew your city for the most part. But now I.
You know, you see kids on bikes, and it’s like a rarity.
Yeah.
Or it’s an electric bike, so they don’t really have to pedal anymore.
Yeah.
You know, and it’s. It just takes away all the. You know, there’s certain fundamental things about knowing where you’re at and how to do things, how to critically think through a situation. Because when you’re on your own as a kid, you have to think about what’s going on, right?
Yeah. Or just the, uh, how to figure out things in a game and playing and doing stuff and getting along and not having the parent hover and fixing it for them. Fix it. Fix it. You know, that was, like, the snowplow parent.
Yeah.
Talking, like, helicopter, and then there’s, like, snowplow that they’re gonna remove all obstacles out of the way, and, you know, I mean, did you ever watch that.
Show Titus on tv?
It was hilarious.
Anyway, Titus, the kid, is about to stick a fork in the, uh, electric socket, and the mom comes running over. Oh, honey, don’t do that. You’re gonna get shocked. And dad goes, hold on. Wait a second. Go ahead. Put it in there. Bet you’re not gonna do that again.
Yeah.
Like, that’s was learning.
Yeah. I mean, I always, you know, talk about the touching the wood stove, and you’re like, yep, that’s hot.
It’s gonna be hot.
That’s hot. Mom said, don’t touch it.
But if they never have those obstacles and they never have those things to figure out. I’m not condoning people to go let their kid get shot, but I’m just saying. Saying they’ve got to work through stuff. Yeah, right.
Yeah, there’s a lot, there’s a lot to it. And you know, parenting is not freaking easy. And we all make mistakes. And I think the big thing with this guy’s book is, you know, you can’t give these kids social media so early. And the effects on boys and girls are where boys are going on social media.
And you know, it goes with, um, adults as well, that you’re spending way too much time on whatever site and it’s messing up your relationship. You know, you’re on, you know, some, your favorite porn site and now you aren’t paying attention to your wife. People are getting these weird dopamine hits and you know, you’re going, this stuff is not healthy for society.
Um, and you gotta self regulate, as Todd would say. Yeah, um, and make right decisions. Cause you got so much at the tip of your fingers and people just get lost in it all instead of.
Just sitting there, right.
And figuring your stuff out. Like, I’m bored, uh, get on my tablet, I’m bored. Scroll on the Internet, I’m bored.
They made it so.
No, it’s so easy.
It’s just so easy. It just shows up to you. It knows what you want to see before you even see it. Which is the kind of scary part about all that social media.
Yeah, it’s just sucking you in. I don’t know. That’s where I go. I wish, uh, we would uh, go to uh, and have that solar flare and then would be uh.
I love flushing toilets and running water, man. And lights that turn on with a switch. I like that stuff. I’ve lived without it.
Yeah. So I’ll give you. This is Huberman’s, uh.
Website.
Um, he’s got some good clips. Um, the Sean Ryan show is fantastic for that. So we will just listen.
You know what I really like to do with you now, as long as we’re talking about sort of these developmental pathways, um, I’m hoping that we can talk about, let’s stay on sexual development. Uh, because this is something, I just have a little section in the book, uh, in the chapter on boys, I have a section where I review the research on pornography and huge amounts of study of pornography over the years.
Um, uh, but the hardcore pornography, high resolution video, um, boys watching it for many boys, well, a large number of boys, um, um, are go every day to pornography sites. Often more than once a day. Um, so I’d love to hear your thoughts on how is that going to change sexual development during puberty a boy who starts, let’s say, at age 1213 and does it for ten years.
Could we expect that that boy will be different when he’s 22? His dating life will be different. Tell me what you think is happening there in the brain and socially and hormonally. Sure.
Absolutely. And I’m not going to demonize pornography, nor am I going to celebrate it. Uh, all I’ll say is that my understanding of the dopamine. Reinforcement system. And I like to call it a reinforcement system as opposed to a reward system, because people generally think that dopamine and dopamine hits relate to pleasure.
But dopamine is more of a motivator as a neuromodulator. It creates a kind of an agitation state that puts us in a state of focus and foraging to resolve some gap between how we feel and how we’d like to feel by seeking things like sex, like food when we’re hungry, like warmth when we’re cold, like cool when we’re too warm.
Universal currency of pursuit of craving and wanting as opposed to having. Dopamine does a lot more than that. Um, and other neuromodulators are involved in wanting and craving, but dopamine is central to that. So I think it’s not just fair to say, but it’s a ground truth that whether or not it’s a drug like methamphetamine, cocaine, crack cocaine in particular, or some other drug that hits the system fast and creates a big, big inflection in dopamine, that the more rapid the rise in dopamine, the bigger the crash in dopamine afterwards and the more miserable you feel afterwards.
M and the more repeat of the behavior that initiated the peak will occur, aka addiction, or at least extreme habit formation, depending how one defines those. When it comes to dopamine, the other key thing to know is that dopamine in particular, high inflections in dopamine, big peaks in dopamine that occur without much effort.
In particular, the kinds of effort that evolved to bring about the dopamine release, such as courting, dating, learning your preferences, learning the other person’s preferences, working out, issues of, uh, discussion, consent, negotiation, etcetera. When dopamine arrives quickly without effort, such as with amphetamine, crack cocaine, or pornography, the whole reinforcement loop becomes wired to these short time scales.
You want something, you want it now, and you get it. But over.
So, really interesting podcast. I mean, I think Hubermanda, uh, is great. He’s got some really good, good things on there and I think it’s a good tandem. I think it’s better than the, uh, Joe Rogan with Jonathan Haight, um, even though that’s a good one.
Um, he really essentially just described what social media does for people. They got immediate dopamine effect and they keep chasing the high and the crash is horrible.
And that goes for adults and adult males as well, um, on this stuff. And I, you know, it’s, uh, quite interesting stuff.
His millions, um, of people now following those categories.
Yeah. So his plan, if you. I’d highly recommend, you know, getting the book is no smartphones, slash, your own iPad, that’s yours before high school, which I was telling my kid. Uh, high school kids. Yeah. It’s gonna be hard. There’s things hard in this guy’s book. And I was like, you guys should read this.
This is your brain. You and the things gonna be hard, just like, working out hard, just like eating right hard. And so many others. Obstacles all the time in life. No, um, social media. Until 16 phone free schools where you get the helicopter parents that freak out that they can’t get ahold of their kid instantly.
Nobody was getting ahold of us. We’re here. It’s, again, like, some of this craziness. It’s. If these parents. I don’t. I mean, I’ve never liked the tracking things.
Um, if I called my dad at work, it’d be like, what do you want? That was back in the day. Because you just never bothered mom and dad at work. Now it’s instantaneous text.
Yeah. It’s, you know, phone free schools and independent play and teaching kids responsibility on their own is his, um, his four step, you know, these action plans. So, um, I was like, encourage people, read the book, and makes it. One of his points is it’s a whole lot easier if you at least have people in your social circle that you’re all doing the same thing.
But when you don’t have a phone and everybody else has a phone, I’m, uh, left out.
Yeah.
Because of the peer pressure, everybody. Peer pressure, you know, I mean, we were just saying before the podcast, it’s, you know, Apple has got such a hold on things that you’re not in the cool kid group if you don’t have the right color bubble, that it’s not coming up as an iPhone and it’s coming up as an Android.
Now you’re on the outside crew, so. And I did what I would. I said, mike, it’s like the bloods and the crips. Yeah. I’m like, iPhones just doing basic stuff. It’s a factory. Get people into the cult.
Yeah. Um, we’re so worried about kids on drugs that we kind of ignore the phone addiction. Right. We kind of ignore that social circle that they create through these phones.
Well, just the effects on girls and social media, like, the whole thing. Boys. Like, I’m more concerned about boys and pornography and what they’re seeing there. I mean, it’s not reality.
Yeah.
And how it’s. That’s rewiring their brain, especially, you know, what Hubermanda, um, said there. And they go on, you know, in that little clip, I think we still have a big. A big chunk. I forget how long that clip was. Um, they’ve got some time stamps that you can go through, and that might have been an eight minute or so timestamp or more for that.
So short answers on this stuff, man. I mean, you can write whole, and he can, he can write whole books on some of this stuff. And it just shows you the depth at which it affects society. If there’s that much that affects us, then why did we start allowing everybody to start having a phone?
Why do we continue to give people these things? And our whole mass marketing culture tells us we should be doing this, too. So we’re getting market pressure. We’re getting peer pressure in our groups. It just blows my mind how much pressure there is to consume and do. And look at the effect it’s had on us all.
Yeah. I mean, it’s the whole, everything we’ve talked about, you know, where’s AI going and all this other stuff. And I’m going, I’d like to get back to, you know, chop wood, carry water. I think we’d probably all be more. I was with a bunch of college students, and I was the only one there that knew how to start a fire because I played with fires.
Again, I’m not telling people to play with fire, but you as a kid, you experiment with stuff. We had. I mean, we had wood burning stoves, obviously, I talked about that with fireplaces, and it was like badge of honor. Like, start the fire. Can you get fire going? Yeah.
And your dad letting you light the fire. Now, don’t play with matches. Right. Uh, burn the house, go camping. It was my job to get the campfire ready. Right? Go and chop the wood and that. Ah. Like, it’s just so much comfort. Right? We’ve talked about that before, too.
It’s just so easy not to want to leave my big, beautiful scorpion computer chair that rotates back and people get out of. Right. That’s the future we’re looking at. No, we’re not. Yeah, you gotta buy that computer, chair. I’m not buying that computer. You should. I want that so bad.
You should get it for me. Yeah, that one’s not that, uh. That request. I’ve bought you a lot of things. That request got denied right away. Yeah, Josh texted me this thing a couple weeks ago. Can I get this? And I’m like, for the office? No, no, you cannot get this for the office, Josh.
No. And I want you out of the office. I feel like if I had that in the office, you would have never left. I wouldn’t even go home. Crazy gaming chair. I’d be like, why are you always at the gym? Everything I need, I’m always here. Oh, uh, no, I think that.
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A couple things going on with staff scheduling and looking at some things and some classes. Um, and we are going to be doing the new ALP program as a class a um, much more affordable price and it includes everything else that you’re doing. So it’s peaceful warrior advanced if you want to.
For some of our members here at RMSDF. Like it’s got everything you had in peaceful warrior. Um, but now you’re getting that class with John. And our second degrees, even some of our first degrees need to be moving into that role of teaching some of these peaceful warrior classes.
And again, you want to talk, you know, train with a guy with the most experience. Hey, that’s another tier up like everything else that’s up there. Um, and you can train with me in that program. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And occasionally, um, I’m going to have to sub stuff because that’s the way it is.
But we’re really trying to and have been trying to move me off the floor off of regular, the regular membership. You want to train with the advanced person. That’s the highest that, that’s the Alp. So advanced learning program. Josh came up with that. So I have my moments. I mean that, but it’s peaceful warrior.
Yeah. Um, another step up, you know, because we take people from this beginner to intermediate ish stage and at a certain point, you know that all level class is great to go in and continue to train and we all need that. Um, but then hey, there’s peaceful warrior. They’re like, let’s bring you on a little bit further.
And then, you know, you get to a certain point, well, people are rotating into that class and running a class of that level is tough. So that’s what AOP is going to be is, you know, you’re advanced or um, I like, long as you’re training, you know, people have asked what belt?
Well, belt level, as long as you have the mindset and you might get left a little bit behind and going, hey, get to you know, you should be going to the other classes. This is a supplement to your other training, especially if you’re a lower level, huh? That you need to be getting in here and doing those classes.
Hint, hint. As Bill tells you, Josh is our experiment on a lot of this. Yeah, you need to get into other classes. You can’t just stay in, quote the cool kid class. Well, I’m in a. The advanced class. It’s not how it’s structured. You need to be training in other classes and not just showing up like, oh, yeah, I do, peaceful warrior.
Well, you still might need to be doing some of the other classes. Uh, yeah, I understand scheduling and all that other stuff, but as we’ve talked about, you can make it work.
Yeah.
If you want something bad enough, uh, you’re going to structure it or. Hey, I just. I’m happy people. Hey, I just want to get a little bit better. I’m going to come in here two days a week and. Whoa, you’re. You’re way better than the average. I mean, so much better than the average person.
But if you really want to step it up to black belt and have a deeper understanding. So we’ve got that. I don’t know. Do you have any?
I mean, being the guinea pig for it. I mean, you always tell me I’m just trying to catch up, trying to catch up and, you know, it ends up helping me get to one where I need to be to some degree. But also, it. I see what I don’t have right, but it’s.
It’s helped. It’s deepened my learning with you and Bill on that stuff. It’s just made the journey that much richer as I’m going with it. So, uh, you’ve transformed me. I mean, I was. We both knew I was awful when I came in. I was awful.
And you were clean cut.
And then I meet you and it just all goes downhill with my hair and the beard. But my. My skill level has changed dramatically. I mean, I feel different. Um, so it’s totally worth that. I don’t have to think too hard sometimes. Now, I had a class the other day where I was just doing things and not thinking about doing things.
Yeah, I think that’s really where the LLP ended up being because I get that unconscious sort of competence is what I’m looking for in all the stuff that we go to.
Yeah. So we’re going to be doing, um, a instructor training class on Wednesday mornings as well. That’s kind of part of alp, um, in there, um, how we’re going to reevaluate, um, instructor training, you know, a little bit of that, um, is stepping it up a little bit more, um, that way.
And people, um, you know, valuing that maybe more, you know, sometimes, um, I feel like I’ve given a lot away, um, just because I’m passionate about it. And you’re going, I’m just giving this stuff away and I’m 52 years old.
Yeah.
And, you know, I said, I’m like, gosh, some of this stuff, like, I wish I was doing that 1015 years ago. Uh, but you get caught up, too, just in the passion of it and going, hey, it’s still a business, and, uh, there’s no retirement plan here.
Yeah. And you’re always. You are always in the mindset that you’re giving people the best in the moment, that you can give them. And that’s what.
So that’s what, you know, alp, if you value training with the higher person, that’s what it’s about. And, like, a lot of times, I feel like I’m just giving it away. Um, in there, sometimes you didn’t have. You were the only instructor, but even just in regular classes. Class, you know, we’ve had things of, um, geez, you know, I can’t afford it.
And I’m like, gosh, I just really want this person to be good and, you know, discounting something and, you know, at a certain point he’s just going, I can’t continue to discount everything. Everything. I look at market trends, um, and what people pay. Even, you know, if you’re going to be in the competitive team in an MMA school, you’re paying to be on that team to get that high, that higher level of training.
And, you know, for the most part, people don’t know that if they’ve only been in one, in one school. And that’s where like, yeah, we have a rigged thing, we have our peaceful warrior, and now we’ve kind of added alp to that step up of putting me on a higher tier.
Not that, I mean, I love teaching beginners.
Yeah.
And that’s where you’re like, well, you’re giving away a lot, um, of value there where people aren’t actually paying for that higher level coach. But, um, you know, I don’t know where I’m going with that, but I think what, you end up giving a lot away. Totally. Where, yeah, higher level coach and
at a certain point you need it just because it’s a freaking business and you’re going, what the heck am I been doing? Even I.
Because you’ve got all these wonderful skills you want to share with people, but, you know, you still gotta earn a living in this world.
Yeah. I mean, I don’t even know. Support your local gym, support this jail. The last twelve years, somewhere in my forties, I was going, geez. And even still you get caught up and it’s hard to, uh, it’s hard to change. And people don’t like change, but we’ve got some highly skilled black.
But they can step into this program and they need it for their training to move up because I’m always taking the higher level classes and all of my other black belts need that trend. They need to be doing that. Yeah, they need taking their, their stuff to another level.
It’s even, uh, we did it to the kids, like, okay, you’re, you got it. We’ve been doing bear hugs, upper, upper belts, and, um. Okay, hey, you guys are kind of close and pairs explain bear hug to each other. And that’s your job. You got a lower level belt.
And I asked, what did you learn? Nothing. What did they tell you? Nothing. One kid, um, they told them something. I forget what it was. You guys were supposed to tell them something or help them with something that you noticed that they were doing wrong in a bear hug.
They didn’t tell me anything. They just bear hugged me. They didn’t tell me. They didn’t tell him me anything. So, um, you know, the kids are cute.
They are fun. I actually do like to class.
It’s tough.
Yeah.
So. Not that I, I love teaching those beginner classes. Sure. You know, at some point, you know, am I giving away too much? And people like, oh, you’re the owner. You know, people have all sorts of thoughts as the consumer, and that’s, that’s. That’s the tough. That’s the tough side of it, of going, you know?
But you don’t see that because you. When people move, like, uh, Brian hurt one of our guys, like, oh, my gosh, John, I didn’t know what I was getting. I didn’t know what I was getting training with you. Like, the school’s all right. Maybe you don’t see that until you leave.
And like I say all the time, there’s way better than me. There’s a saying, you know, and there’s a lot of crappy stuff out there, you know, even if you’re just looking at our clearsky, uh, training portal, get on there. We just. We’re trying to put stuff out there for our students and anybody that’s listening and they want to train at home with a friend that they’re.
Here’s the takeaway. Now go do it with your. Your buddy. Um, that’s what it’s for. And we, you know, we just mint holding people, you know, mess that stuff up. So, I don’t know, maybe it’s not worth. It’s an incredible program.
It’s transformed me.
So, yeah, you’re our. You’ve been our experiment and that in the smaller group, um, things I’m still gonna be doing the privates. If somebody really wants that one on one attention, we’re probably gonna change the privates to, um, include everything. If you’re in that private program and you want regular classes, I think we’re gonna move that.
Um, maybe that’ll entice a few things or make it more. A little bit more affordable.
So how do they sign up?
How do they get.
They know how to, uh, touch me. Okay, if our students don’t know how to get in touch.
Listen, you still got to know.
We don’t. Josh, if you’re not smart enough. Like Josh. Like Josh. Like, I freaking hate John. Here’s my theory on this. If I. If they don’t know.
Uh huh.
How to get in touch with me, uh huh. That, uh, you’re looking for band. They have my phone number, they have the member site. If they don’t know how to find those things, they’re not ready for Alp. If you don’t know how to come into the class like somebody today, like, hey, I want in.
I’m like, okay, text me.
Sorry, the producer.
We’ll make sure.
I ruin my head sometimes. Don’t forget to tell them. Don’t forget to tell them how to get it. They’ll wrap it up like all those things. Like, all those things go through my head while we’re doing this, and like.
Yeah, they’re not smart enough.
Maybe m. They really do need the Alp class. If they don’t get a hold of.
You, you need other things, like if you’re on our social media.
Yeah.
And you can’t figure out how to click on our profile.
I think they’re smart enough.
I love it.
I have to say, I love my.
Mom and dad, but they fall in that group. But they’re also in their sixties.
Oh, yes. Yeah. They’re like, I don’t understand. Oh, my gosh. This person doesn’t actually understand the Internet. And that’s great. That’s fine, but it is a little bit necessary. I mean, my. My wife in HR, she’s like, some of her, um, some of the places that she used to consult for that they would have to sit down and help the person with the computer.
Yeah. And, hey, this. It’s online. You got to. Dude. What?
Yeah, they’re still generating. They’re still.
They’re still out there,
Dari. They’re aging out, though. They’re aging out.
Wow.
You know what? They’re all like, I didn’t understand. And you, like, click the button. You didn’t understand to click the button.
Let’s start with reading the screen.
But I think a lot of it is, you know, running a gym is so much harder, so much harder than it used to be when I started.
Yeah.
You have to do so much more. And even you look at it, like, from, you know, talking out. Talking people out of starting a gym. But no, do it because you empower lives and there’s, uh, different things. But you’re going, I’m not making any more money than I was ten years ago, and I’m working freaking, way freaking harder to run this gym.
Yeah.
And, you know, I think that’s all of us. I was talking to Scott over at Castle Rock martial arts the other day. Freaking. So, like, work, work, work. It’s so much harder. And, yeah, people are on our thing, and then they’re like, squirrel. And they forgot that they were interested in something that could have bettered their lives.
Some sort of martial arts or fitness program. And then they’re like, oh, funny video. Oh, you gotta look at this funny video. Oh, let me send it to my friends.
Um, is that dopamine hit. They want that dopamine.
M. And they’re off of it. And, you know, like, it’s. We spend more time just getting in touch with people.
Yeah.
Just even try to, hey, we got this ten day free pass. And, hey, sign up now and we’ll give you the promotion. Because they don’t understand we have to chase them and how much money that cost. Chasing the lead. Yeah. Ah. And people don’t see that. Well, it’s just the class.
To run a gym is way more than just the class.
Yeah.
It’s chasing people and everything else. Not to men, you know, cleaning the gym.
Yeah.
Air. And how much. A woman said yesterday, you know, the new marketing company, she’s like, I’m getting texts and calls, like, yeah, are you gonna show up for your appointment? Because the moment you click that Facebook thing or Instagram thing, it costs me money. So we’re trying to make sure you actually show up because your action cost us money.
Yeah.
As the business, when you click on it, like, I don’t know, I’ll look up stuff and go, don’t click on their ad. It’s just another business owner to business owner. Like, scroll three things, then go, okay, there’s the info I want, but people will click the ad. And we have part, uh, members that click our ads.
Sometimes I’m like, you’re clicking on an ad, right.
You know, that cost me. You know, they don’t.
They don’t know it. They don’t realize it’s an ad.
Yeah.
Um, so I don’t know what else we got on alp. We probably. It just.
It just really does accelerate the learning. It really, really has. It’s condensed. I don’t know. I’ve loved every moment. Of it. I know I’ve been the guinea pig, but I can tell you guys, it, it is radically transformed to me physically and mentally.
You know, that’s something, um, that we’re doing. I was, you know, if we had a kid, a full time kid instructor, I would do a kid alp for those parents that do want more and that, you know, it can be hard. Like, hey, do you want a smaller class?
And there’s only so much we can do in a class. Yeah, like we can come around, you can help people. But sometimes you have to remind people, this is a group class. You’re going to get group lessons and you can see tears and in the martial arts and fitness of what you’re getting.
I mean, we, our classes are, our regular classes are considered small group, but they’re at our large group pricing. When you’re a large group, you’re talking about 40 people. Like price structuring for the industry. This is nothing I made up. This is like industry stuff. We’re like, our average class is a small group class at large group pricing.
And people don’t actually realize that. And then, you know, other market like people, price gouge, it’s, you know, like every other industry, you’re going, good lord, people, you guys, stop price gouging. It’s hard enough to run this industry and you got other martial arts schools. Price gouging, you’re going, you know, hey, that might not work out in the long run or you’re gonna need a uh, ton of people in your class at that price.
So that brings down the service that you’re getting. As we, as we know, you get.
What you pay for and you get a lot when you pay for it. Here you do, you get a ton.
So if I pay some other guy more for social media, I’ll get more? Is that what you’re telling me? All ah, right guys. Yeah, you know, I had to find something. I had to find something to wrap this show up on. I don’t know what the heck we’re doing.
I don’t know. Alright, guys, I appreciate it. You guys know all the socials. If you’re interested in Alp, really, um, check out that anxious generation. And the title is much longer than that. I think it’s like something about um, how uh, the great rewiring, I’m gonna mess it up.
I keep messing it up with the kids. But if you go anxious generation, Jonathan hate Haidt and um, he’s got a great Andrew Huberman on the Huberman lab podcast. All right guys. Hey buy a t shirt, support the podcast, get on and train, and look at those videos and train more and suck less at Clearsky training.
That’s out there for everybody. But if you’re a member, you guys should be on there. You can get our black belt membership, and we have instructor conversations on there. Want to get a deeper understanding? That is all available on the Clearsky training. And it’s, you know, a lot where you’re going to get with me in the ALp because there’s so much like, I should have filmed that.
I should have done that. So you’re going to get that attention with me and focus more on potentially stuff that you want to do, um, in there. All right, guys, you know what to do. Suck less. Co check that out, too.
